Friday, February 27, 2009

Some more ideas for getting organized

 I've been exploring the concept of continuous conversation, and I've tried the trick of a two way conversation across two previously unconnected points. I've noticed that it's hard to get people to sign up for a new service with no guarantee of success, so that's led me to trick number two.

It occurred to me, that on the internet, you could easily eliminate a post entirely and create a new one in its place. Theoretically, any conversation could be carried over from one place to another and eliminated from it's original location, effectively transplanted to somewhere new.

If somebody were to try this trick with multiple conversations, several could be merged into a single site from a multitude of other sites on the web. That could potentially allow for a web community to form while it's being promoted.

This idea will have to be explored some more.

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

How We'll Create Momentum

I already explained my idea earlier: We organize people and lead them to two different places on the web. We'll rely on the ideas present in the people joining the groups and encourage each group to organize each other's section in the International Perspective.

Since so many concepts of perspective get confusing and the system keeps changing, I'll break this idea of the International Perspective down quickly:
First there is all the discussion of European animation on the English language internet.
Second, there are those who have noticed the Euranimate project.
Third, there are those who've actively taken the time to express their views on the project.
Fourth and last, there are the active contributors who have taken a stance and taken steps to support this project for European animation.

Let's compare and contrast YouTube and the IMDb for their relative high and low points:

Active participation: Our YouTube group requires registration but is more focused on the project itself which will encourage active participation. On the IMDb, anybody registered can drop in an idea, but people mostly become distracted with other topics and it really won't work too well for serious focus.

Room for inner growth: YouTube allows for a larger concentration of members due to the number of people registered and the ease of registration, but it doesn't give people much to work with. The IMDb doesn't give much hope for bringing a large number of people together, but it allows for members to submit information to improve a more permanent and useful database.

What we'll probably end up doing when there are more people is using YouTube to get people organized, and redirecting people to the IMDb whenever we need something done there, to lay down the law.

Here's how we're going to get the people interested, the same principle at both places:
On both the IMDb and on YouTube, we'll begin with two topics to draw interest to our cause. Organizational topics will be updated once we get more interest.

First Topic: Members are encouraged to bring up subjects from more obscure corners of the site and direct attention both ways.
Second Topic: Any Group Organizer or Perspective contributor brings up topics which will be explored for their potential of being of greater use to the Euranimate project. 

I'll personally start each of these topics to avoid delay, but I need you, mjf314. to lower the restrictions on the YouTube group to allow for free flowing conversation.

Monday, February 23, 2009

First of many half-baked ideas: an RSS feed

You've read the title, now you're probably wondering exactly what we'd use an RSS feed for in particular. It's another web term which I've often heard used, but until now I hadn't realized exactly what it was, or how one could be used. Here are some ideas of ways that we may end up using them in the future:

An RSS feed would mean that we could organize a large number of sites, put them all on a form requesting updates, and have all updates be given not just to the sender, but to everybody on the list.

If the person who created the feed wrote their own page into the feed, that would mean that a self aware network would be created.

This is a huge development!

Humor me while I go off on a slight tangent, and start to piece together a few minor pieces of trivia:

We have a YouTube group to gather fan interest. allows for fans to submit a petition.
Netflix allows films to be suggested for inclusion in their library. (I can't find the web link right now, sadly)
Netflix has a lists system which allows for titles to be discovered.
Netflix has an unofficial community where fans can discuss their tastes.
New popular animated films from Europe have a large amount of support, but fans have to wait a long time for them to be dubbed.
A 2 way RSS feed would allow for immediate updates to a large group of people on one subject.

We now have discovered a small but reliable loop of self perpetuating interest, now follow along with me.

We find sites full of fans for new releases and put the sites on an RSS feed to look for interest. We direct their attention to the Euranimate group on YouTube. We petition for the release of more films by directing people to from our YouTube group. To ensure their availability, we ensure that Netflix will stock the titles. Members will put titles they enjoy on their YouTube lists for others to find. Hardcore animation fans on Netflix will talk about the titles, and intrigued friends can be directed to the YouTube group.

It's a small start, but it reminds us of something that we can do right now, if we can just get somebody websmart to create an RSS feed.

First things first though, I've become inspired for a way to get this project going at both the IMDb and the YouTube group. 

Introduction to Euranimate's official project blog

I've had to reevaluate this project half a dozen times, and expect to do so even faster in the coming days. IMDb has completely failed as a means of generating interior buzz, seeing as it's so slow and self sustaining support has not been provided from within either area. There's one trick that we haven't tried, and it's to backhand the golden rule.

Here's how the principle works: group A focuses on Group B, and Group B focuses on Group A. Each one is so focused on changing the other that they hardly care to notice how the other group has changed their selves. That seems to be how it works, though we'll have to prove this principle in the real. In order to get this project futher, we'll play the middlemen, and allow for the groups to sort out each other's affairs.

Here's the basic concept as we'd play it.

Group One: Analytical Group to help organize the Experience group
Group Two: Experience Group to help organize the Analytical group
Middlemen: Sort out ideas brought up by each group, and use them to organize the other group

Now that we have an organizational blog, we are in a position to be the middlemen as there's now a means to establish some inner order among ourselves. Beforehand, we were struggling between two places of organization which, of course, doesn't work for organizing a project efficiently.

Here's how the project stands now, as I've managed to reinterpret it:

Three active contributors with presently assigned roles:
regomarliam-Project leader, organizer of Analytical group at IMDb, international perspective organizer
mjf314-Organizer of Experience group at YouTube, international perspective contributor
MrElg-Country perspective organizer?, international perspective contributor

These two places on different sites will be centers where we'll center the two groups, the Analytical center at IMDb, and the Experience center on YouTube. When we've set up each of these groups to allow for satisfactory discussion of the other, we'll have to promote the project elsewhere, explaining the organization as it is at the moment. If this doesn't make much sense, think of it as the left and right brain, where one side is designed to help work with the other.

One problem with the way we're currently organized is that this is simply on a project basis, with fixed ideas. We're doing this to keep the system orderly, and keep out all the filthy conversation, but it just won't work. The first step to getting people interested is to simply throw all that restricting order right out of the window, to focus on promoting good discussions which develop without our interference. I'll talk about this some more once both of you find this blog.

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